Today we take another look at Ryzen 7. 5800X3D with a large benchmark of 40 games, but this time instead of comparing with the Intel flagship, Core i9-12900K or even the KS model, we’ve prepared a shootout with the much more reasonable Core i7-12700KF.
For the vast majority of gamers 12700KF is the smarter choice because for just $370, you essentially get i9-12900K performance at a discount of almost 40%. This savings is important for several reasons. First of all, it’s money that you can save or spend on something else in your new build, and in the fight against the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, AMD claims that their high-end gaming solution is at least 40% cheaper when you factor in the cost of the CPU along with with the entire site.
So you might be wondering why we didn’t start with 12700KF since it’s more of an apples-to-apples comparison in terms of pricing? The reason is that AMD has stated in its press presentations and marketing materials that the 5800X3D is now the world’s fastest gaming desktop processor. According to our own testing, depending on how you set up 12900K and the games you’re running it’s technically correct though we claim it’s one of the fastest gaming processors in the world as it basically matches 12900K and KS across a wide range of games…more than 20 AMD tested anyway .
Our initial testing focused on looking at AMD’s claims and looking at the 5800X3D from an “ideal gaming processor” standpoint. Now for those of you looking for high performance but also concerned about getting the most bang for your buck, it’s time to see how AMD’s V-Cache creation stacks up against what we consider Intel’s best high-end option. , Core i7-12700KF, so let’s figure it out.
For testing the Core i7 processor, we used an MSI Z690 Tomahawk WiFi DDR4 motherboard, while the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was tested on an MSI X570S Carbon Max WiFi, and we also included the standard 5800X CPU for reference.
Instead of using ultra-expensive DDR5 memory with 12700KF, which makes no sense in terms of cost, both processors were paired with DDR4-3800 CL16 memory. It’s not just an apples-to-apples comparison, but we think it’s a more realistic configuration. Other test system notes to be aware of: We ran tests with Resizable BAR enabled on GeForce RTX 3090 Ti.
Starting with Valorant, we see the 5800X and 12700KF are even, with the original Ryzen 7 CPU only winning by a few percentage points. In this case, the 5800X3D was 28% faster at 1080p when looking at 1% lows, and even at 4K it kept 22% headroom. A clear win for the 5800X3D, though we’re not sure how many of you will notice the difference, but I’ll leave that up to the professional gamers among you.
Interesting testing with Cities Skylines shows the 12700KF matches the 5800X3D, making it 18% faster than the standard 5800X. A good result for the Core i7, especially considering how much cheaper it is than the 3D model.
Another game where the 12700KF performs really well is StarCraft II, where it mostly matched the 5800X3D, which is impressive considering the 3D version was over 50% faster than the stock model.
In our testing with these high-end processors, Apex Legends is pretty GPU-limited, as they can all run over 200fps at 1080p using an RTX 3090 Ti. The 12700KF appears to sit between two Ryzen 7 processors, and if you’re looking for 260fps or less on average, then either of these processors will work just fine.
Dying Light 2 isn’t particularly demanding on the CPU, and as an RPG, survival horror, it certainly doesn’t require hundreds of frames per second, so 160fps at 1080p is probably enough, and it’s certainly enough to match 5800X3D. , although the 1% lows were 8% lower. Still comparable performance overall.
The 5800X and 12700KF go head to head in Rainbow Six Siege, and both average just under 530fps at 1080p, making the 5800X3D 13% faster at that resolution. By the time we hit 1440p, we’re fully locked into the RTX 3090 Ti GPU, so it’s hard to tell how useful the performance advantage V-Cache offers.
Moving on to Battlefield V, the Core i7-12700KF sits between the 5800X3D and 5800X. At 1080p, the average frame rate improved by 22% over the 5800X, while the 3D model fell behind by 13%. Thus, we would say an impressive result for 12700KF.
Then we have F1 2021 where the 12700KF finds itself again between the 5800X and 5800X3D, although it is closer to the non-3D model, leading it by 12% over 1% lows at 1080p while it was 20% slower. than 5800X3D. Although slower than the V-Cache-enabled model, all processors ran at over 200fps.
Halo Infinite performs better at 12700KF than at 5800X, we see a massive 31% increase at 1% lows at 1080p, allowing the Core i7 to roughly match the 5800X3D, so that’s a good result for Intel.
12700KF also matched 5800X3D in Red Dead Redemption 2 at 1080p before becoming completely GPU-limited at 1440p and 4K. We expect a 13% improvement at 1% at 1080p, making the Core i7 processor just 3% slower than the 5800X3D.
The second last game we’re going to review is The Outer Worlds, where the 5800X3D was 57% faster than the 5800X. The 12700KF is much faster than the 5800X, but even so, the 5800X3D still managed to push the 1% lows by 19% at 1080p and even 17% faster at 1440p.
Finally, we have Death Stranding, and here the Intel processors behave quite strangely, delivering a relatively high performance of 1% at a low average frame rate. As a result, the 12700KF was 4% faster than the 5800X at 1080p at 1% viewing lows, but 14% slower in average frame rates. This meant that the 5800X3D was 31% faster than the Core i7 processor. Of course, this is a single-player game, so over 160fps in our testing at 1080p is probably more than enough for this game.
We just looked at a little over a dozen of the games we tested, but there are 40 in total, so there’s a lot more data to look at, so let’s take a look at the breakdown charts spanning 1080p, 1440p, and 4K resolutions.
At 1080p using GeForce RTX 3090 TiThe Ryzen 7 5800X3D was only 8% faster on average than the Core i7-12700KF, although it was a whopping 33% faster in Death Stranding. In 14 games the difference exceeded 10% in favor of the 5800X3D, and in only one game the 5800X3D was 5% or more slower.
Because both processors use DDR4-3600 CL16 memory, the 5800X3D is the faster gaming processor, but for the most part, that headroom is fairly small.
At the more popular 1440p resolution for high-end gaming, the CPU plays a smaller role as games become more dependent on the GPU, even with the RTX 3090 Ti. Here the 5800X3D was only 5% faster on average, and in just 7 games we see a double digit difference.
As expected, at 4K resolution the 5800X3D was only 1% faster on average, and now the vast majority of games tested are fully GPU bound.
For those of you wondering, the 5800X and 12700KF were broadly equal. The Ryzen 7 processor was slightly slower, but only 5% on average. There were only 10 games in which 5800X was slower by 10% or more, and then only one example where he was faster by a two-digit lead (Death Stranding). Then there were 17 games where the difference between them was 5% or less in either direction, which we consider a tie.
The best gaming processor?
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D is without a doubt one of the best gaming processors out there, but does it make sense to buy it over more competitive options like the Core i7-12700KF? Well, let’s explore this…
Right now, the Core i7-12700KF will set you back $370, while the non-K version, which delivers pretty much the same performance as this review, costs $310.
Motherboard pricing from the Intel side is a problem, decent Z690 options start at $200. MSI Pro Z690-P can be purchased for $170although it is still expensive for what it is. Those who opt for the non-K model are probably better off choosing the B660 and the best option in this space is the MSI Pro B660M-A WiFi for $150. This means a 12700KF with an affordable Z690 board will set you back $540, while a 12700F with a good B660 board will set you back $460.
The Ryzen 7 5800X3D should be $450, but it’s out of stock everywhere right now. All retailers offer it for $450, but if out of stock, you’ll have to deal with a third-party seller who added an extra $50. But let’s favor AMD and say the 5800X3D is $450 in the hope that inventory levels will improve, although we have to say we’re not very sure.
AMD’s best-case 5800X3D is $450, while a decent X570 board is $180, which works out to $630. You can also choose the budget B550, something like the MSI B550M Pro-VDH WiFi for $120dropping the package to $570, but that’s a compromise we wouldn’t want to make with such a premium processor.
So if you get the 5800X3D for $450 it will cost you 17% more than the 12700KF combo and we think that’s a worthwhile expense. The I7-12700F on the B660 board is hard to beat at $460 as it’s a 15% discount over the 12700KF combo as there’s no noticeable performance difference out of the box. That would be up against the new $300 5700X, and you can add it to the B550 board for a $420 combo, at which point they’re very equal…at least for gaming.
What have we learned
Based on the above comparison of performance and value, the final conclusion is that there is no clear winner… but you do get some great options that are truly the best choice.
If AMD can actually keep up with demand for the 5800X3D, it will be competitive with the 12700KF in terms of cost, while other Ryzen 7 components will cover the 12700F. But if you are not just playing on your PC, then Core i7-12700 becomes much more attractive as it usually offers much better performance than Zen 3 based Ryzen 7 processors.
The best way to break it…
If you’re looking to build a high-end gaming system to get the best possible performance without going overboard with the cost of things like memory, then the 5800X3D is the way to go. However, if you just want a powerful gaming processor that’s also great for general use and performance, then we’d say the 12700 options are better all-around.
The more affordable 5700X is a good addition to the Ryzen line even if it came too late, but even then the 12700F would be a better option considering it’s faster for gaming and much faster for most productivity applications, be it single-core or multi-core. .
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